#Elsa's self discovery

[laststandx3]

There are many bad things about wish, but one of the most annoying is how it fails to pay off its own set ups.

It's established Asha's father believes in the magic from the stars. He died of an illness (never specified), that Asha's grandfather (her father's father) never got his wish granted in YEARS, well now to me this feels targeted.

Follow my thoughts for a minute, how easy would have been with this already established set up to add the part where it's Magnifico who killed Asha's dad because he was promoting a different kind of magic that would undermine Magnifico's power? This would've established Magnifico as an actual villain from the start, manipulating people's perception of him with magic and the lengths he would go to keep his power and crown.

This would have impacted Asha's journey as well,instead of asking Magnifico to grant her grandfather's wish immediately (which imo is a good reason for him not to hire her, she literally asks for favoritism the moment she arrives), let her instead be perfect for the position, not clumsy and awkward but make her qualified and respectful of the king's secrecy about the wishes. And still she's still not hired. And then she starts questioning him, she's studied, she's ready and it's not enough and the king seemed to like her until she mentioned her father.

And then she talks with the people of rosa about the king, if that was unfair of him maybe , but the answer is that the king is good and kind and doesn't he grants everyone's wishes, isn't that so wonderful of him? (and maybe this can be a song) and at first it sounds like she just doesn't want to accept that she wasn't chosen but after the forth person answers the same exact thing, well then this starts to feel more like a script than an original thought. Just then she looks at all the wishes Magnifico's granted so far and they're all material, it's all about people owning bigger houses, better clothes, riches, nothing is about community, knowledge, about people becoming something(musicians, teachers, scientists, artists...) . The guy that got his wish granted last year also got it granted a few years ago too, Isn't that weird? Some people never get their wishes and this guy twice? And also his wish was so selfish? He wanted a swimming pool! How in the best kingdom, with the best king, nobody wishes nice things for others? And isn't that weird that she and her friends used to make graffitis and jokes on the guards but when Sleepy gave away his wish at 18 suddenly he doesn't make jokes about Magnifico's beard anymore? He's so respectful of the rules now.

And idk maybe Asha doesn't just wish upon a star and everything is given to her. Maybe Magnifico's source of magic is Star and she frees it and that's why Star tags along. The magic of the starts was real, her father was right! Star knew her dad, he tried to save the magical pet but he was killed instead! Now it's not just about freedom and justice she wants revenge. And this is maybe when she fucks up because she was too reckless, she got discovered. Her friends/family are watching how she's getting arrested/executed for treason and that's SO UNFAIR such a cognitive dissonance it breaks Magnifico's brainwash spell.

Now a song about revolution makes sense. But singing about revolution bc they want to be able to wish? Are you kidding me? Not only the movie established that you can have new wishes and that they make you whole again, but also girl, you all read the terms of services when giving Magnifico your wish. You give it to him and if he finds it worth it, it'll be granted. Making questions about the king choices is the opposite of living under a monarchy.

Ultimately I agree with everyone who says this movie feels empty, because it's true, it's a bunch of disney trope stitched together with easter eggs that don't makes us feel anything and that contradicts its own message. The fact that disney doesn't want to make grey characters anymore it's felt. And it mirrors the way people have started to see enjoying stories as media consumption, everything that alludes to people being flawed is an endorsement of abuse. So disney's characters have all turned is these empty shells of heroine tropes. They're always bubbly, their worst flaw is being clumsy, but the worst is that they're always right. Asha's quest to free the wishes is based only on her conviction that the king is wrong in not granting everyone's wish. It's never even hinted in the movie that the subjects of rosa lack something. It's a fairy-tale kingdom in every aspect (maybe the king is a bit egocentric but that hasn't hurt anyone so far), except that her grandpa's wish wasn't granted and so the king must be wrong. If it wasn't for Magnifico's long exposition of I don't accept criticism she wouldn't have questioned him. And even then, that's what living in a kingdom means, that you follow the king's rules. I'm sorry but singing about revolution and then ending the movie still under a monarchy is just contradictory with the whole premise.

[girl4music]

So Frozen 2. The first movie is about self-acceptance. This movie is about self-discovery. Elsa feels that while everything is going good for her at the moment in her Kingdom of Arendelle that she’s not where she belongs - not who or where she’s meant to be. Elsa accidentally awakens the four spirits (Air, Fire, Water and Earth) of the enchanted forest when she hears a voice calling to her and she listens to it. Anyway, they get called out to the enchanted forest by Gale (spirit of Air) to put things right in the past between their Kingdom and the indigenous tribe of Northuldra and Elsa learns her true nature. We eventually find out that she’s hearing the voice because she is the fifth spirit and the voice that’s calling her is her from the future.

The truth was calling out to her because longtime lies from their past needed to be uncovered. Longtime lies that have segregated an entire community of people that were meant to be together. They were meant for their lives to be intertwined as Anna and Elsa’s mother was Northuldran and their father was Arendellian.

So it’s all about finding the right “path” or “way” which is always a compelling story to tell in fiction. And of course, it’s not just Elsa that discovers who she truly is and what she’s meant to be doing with her life. Anna becomes Queen of Arendelle and marries Kristoff while Elsa remains in the enchanted forest with the other spirits as the bridge between the magic of nature and humanity as well as a protector of it.

And it’s just as emotionally powerful as the first movie if not more for the reason that - once again - these are dark concepts to be exploring in a children’s franchise but ultimately they relate to and resonate with many diverse audiences who struggle with understanding who they are and their purpose in life just like them.

I always say that it’s worth it to go a little bit darker as long as you know how to use nuance and metaphor to tell a story in a number of different ways so that it can be accessible and beneficial for all ages and genders.

[spicylove4ever]

Oh, gales,

you sing and guide me!

[tiyasrocks]

A Random Frozen 3 Theory-

The Frozen movies are widely recognized for their exploration of self-discovery and personal growth, particularly in the context of young adulthood. In the first movie, Elsa embodies the struggles of a young adult who is grappling with her own identity and sense of self-worth. She experiences intense self-loathing and depression, which are common themes among those who are unable to control their emotions.

Meanwhile, Anna is portrayed as a sheltered and inexperienced teenager who is struggling to navigate the outside world. Her naivety and lack of experience make her vulnerable to manipulation, which is a common challenge for many young people who are learning to assert their independence.

By the end of the first movie, Elsa and Anna have both undergone significant personal growth. Elsa learns to accept herself, while Anna learns not to trust everyone she meets.

But, F1’s end comes with lot of questions like - “What happened to their parents ?” Or “Why does Elsa have power ?” 

 The unanswered questions from the first movie are addressed in the sequel, Frozen 2, which explores their characters even further.

Elsa's character development in F2 is particularly noteworthy, as she moves beyond self-acceptance to a deeper understanding of herself and her place in the world .She finally discovers herself (What comes after Self Acceptance ? Self-Discovery of course)

However, it is Anna's character development that truly shines in F2. In the previous film, she was often portrayed as a follower, constantly chasing after Elsa and putting her own needs aside. This dynamic is further explored in F2 as Anna continues to prioritize Elsa above all else, even leaving Kristoff behind at times. Yet, as the movie progresses, Anna begins to come into her own, paving her own path and becoming a leader in her own right.

This evolution is exemplified in the scene where Anna talks the Arendelle soldier into helping her break the dam instead of succumbing to grief over her sister's apparent demise. It is a powerful moment that shows just how far Anna has come from her naive beginnings. She has learned to prioritize herself and her own goals rather than simply following in Elsa's wake.

Overall, the character development in F2 is a testament to the power of self-discovery and self-awareness. Both Elsa and Anna have undergone significant changes since their introduction in F1, and their journeys continue to be a driving force behind the success of the Frozen franchise.

As the Frozen franchise moves into a potential third installment, it is natural to speculate on what the future may hold for the beloved characters of Anna and Elsa. While a wedding for Anna and Kristoff seems inevitable, there are also larger questions to be answered, particularly regarding Elsa's role as the fifth spirit. While the second movie provided some answers, there is still much to explore in this area.

In discussing the potential plot of a third movie, it is important to consider the character development that has occurred in the previous installments. Both Elsa and Anna have grown immensely throughout their journey, with Elsa moving from self-loathing to self-discovery and Anna learning to carve her own path and lead rather than simply following her sister.

The concept of self-actualization is particularly relevant here, as it represents the highest level of psychological development in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. As such, it is reasonable to expect that the third movie will focus on this theme, particularly in relation to Elsa's character. As she continues to save the forest, the question arises: what is her ultimate purpose? This is a question that the filmmakers may explore in depth, pushing Elsa's character to new heights of growth and development.

Meanwhile, Anna's journey has already seen her experience - failed love and heartbreak (kinda ? but it's more relevant for Kristoff - Lost in the Woods), and it is likely that the third movie will explore the challenges of marriage and the complexities of juggling work and love. Despite these difficulties, Anna and Kristoff are likely to learn to love and cherish each other all the more for the struggles they face.

Anyway. Let’s see what happens. (In my personal opinion I believe Disney should stop producing sequels of the same story over and over again, hoping to cash in on its previous successes. F2 didn’t meet upto my expectation and I don’t really think there can be any movie better than Frozen 1, cause it is just perfect and we don’t need another rushed, half assed movie just so Disney can make big billions while undermining artistic integrity.) 

Lemme know what you guys think !

[cloudberriesforaqueen]

Elsa shortening her hair? 💇‍♀️

Frozen is pretty big on its hair symbolism, especially with Elsa. We know the story all too well:

Elsa's hair tied in a clean and tight bun symbolizes the "strictness" of her royal life, her having to "keep everything in," and the "perfect girl" facade she feels she needs to keep up. Her powers are tight and restricted.

Elsa letting that bun down in what will be her signature braid and pushing her hair back, of course, signifies her "letting it go." Her hair is now loose, she has freedom to exercise her powers. But her hair is still tied up, so she's not exactly at her "fullest potential" yet.

I think even Elsa tying it in a low ponytail in the Dark Sea scene could also mean that she was just about ready to "be her truest self" but has one more stage (one more thing tying her down, get it? 😅) she needs to undergo before...

...she completely lets all of her hair fall down— no ties whatsoever. She has "transformed" into the true Queen of the Ice and Snow, she's found "who she's been waiting for all her life!"

You would think that last hairstyle is reasonably the final stage to represent her personal journey, but I'm curious if the franchise will continue to expand on Elsa's hair symbolism.

If the future installments continue her progressing further into self discovery, and assuming that her hair would also be affected story-wise, then... a possible new hairdo would be Elsa cutting or shortening her hair— a common trope in film meaning transformation, growth, and change!

We know it would be somewhat risky for Disney to significantly change Elsa's iconic look and silhouette in such a way. The art book, movie special, and documentaries revealed that they are quite strict on the colors that Elsa can and cannot wear, as well as the "language" of her fashion. So, we know that they handle her appearance with great caution. But if there's one thing I've learned from the Frozen franchise, it's that it always exceeds our expectations 🫢

I, for one, never expected to see Elsa letting her hair down ever, and yet she did! Oh, and remember when Elsa wearing pants was trending? Yup... 😂

If Elsa does cut her hair, I imagine Kristoff repeating his question, "Did you cut your hair or something?" and Elsa finally replying that she did instead of "or something." 😆

But, hey, that's just a theory. A Frozen theory! ❄️

[feathered-mushrooms]

I like creative mind projects. This became one of them.

Alright let’s set the basics of this ‘show’. The Xavier Institute, situated in Salem, Westchester, is run by Charles Xavier. A professor, doctor, and world renowned author and scientist. However he possesses a secret, a discovery he made on his travels abroad: mutants. He has returned home and opened a school for those said mutants, and we follow his ‘first class’.

Our main characters, at least for season one, would be the og five. Scott, Jean, Warren, Bobby, and Hank. And guess what? The school actually is a school. They take classes taught by Charles, and do superhero stuff on the side. Here is their everyday clothes:

Think the vibes of X-men Evolution. The show would focus on the dual life of the kids, but would also focus on them being kids. The trouble they get into, the antics they get up to. The drama that comes with being a teenager. Additional clothes(on colder days)

So what is everyone’s backstory?

Scott Summers Scott has a very similar life to the one we know. Parents dead in a plane ‘accident’ and him being separated from his brother in the foster care system. He goes from house to house until his mutation manifests. In which he is thrown into a few bad situations regarding his foster parent using him for his powers, before being found by Charles. Scott was the first student to live on campus, but by far not the first student, however he sees Scott as a father(even if Charles doesn’t see him as his son). He is a mix of the cautious and rather reserved. He’s malnourished body earned him the nickname Slim, but don’t let the meek act fool you. He is sarcastic as you could imagine and has a very strong moral code. He will make a good leader.

Jean Grey Jean’s telekinesis came to her when she was young. Charles has been a constant figure in her life since then, almost taking on what she might call an ‘uncle’ role. He has been working with her for years, and was the first to know when her telepathy manifested, at the death of her best friend. To Charles, she was his first student, and the closest thing he feels he has to a kid. She joins the team last, the premier episode being about her moving into the mansion. She is feisty and spirited. The most reckless of the five, but also oddly balanced in responsibly. She knows she’s powerful and she fears it.

Warren Worthington III Warren’s wings did not grow in until he was away at boarding school. Lucky for him, he could hide them well at first by dropping all the sports he played. Warren used to play the part of an upstuck rich kid very well, but that never was him. When his wings fully came in, he spent the nights saving people from muggers and robbers. He realized it felt good to do something his parents would never do. When Charles offered him a place at the school he toke it, and has been learning to move past his rich ego, however some habits are hard to break. Warren still loves posh language and loves the fact that he is the richest among his friends, but also has a genuine want to help others.

Bobby Drake Bobby always knew he was different. He was gay. Something he found very hard to hide. That was until he found out he was a mutant, something he could hide behind. Bobby’s manifestion consisted of him freezing his entire room and himself, in a very Elsa manner. His parents were outraged, which caused Bobby to realize he could never come out to his parents. Charles came and wiped his parents mind, making everything easier, but Bobby still has the secret he has told no one. A secret he still hasn’t fully realized himself. Bobby hides his self loathing and anxieties behind bad jokes that he hops will be funny. As the youngest on the team, he often deals with the need to prove himself.

Hank McCoy Hank was good at hiding. His physical mutation made him very ape like in appearance, but if he stood the right way, played his card rights, and knew the right people, he could make everyone look past it. He was a genius, but hid behind a football jock exterior, an explanation for his body that made people look past him. Hank joined the school under the belief that he would not need to pretend anymore, and so he let go of his football alter ego. He prefers his academic side and is interested in pursuing the world of knowledge. He has a very academic way of speaking, but oddly really understands human emotion. He pushes himself hard and loves any and every form of learning.

In this show, the X-men was created by Charles as a way to get the public ready for the announcement of mutants, but they become so much more. Charles originally thinks that if the public can see super-powered people helping the world, they will be less likely to attack those people. He designs his perfect team, and even designs their suits.

The team….likes them….kinda

Within the first season, mutants would be exposed to the public and the X-men’s fight focus on the fight of oppression and proving they can be good. Teased in the final moments of season one, Scott will reveal the x-costumes he has designed for everyone. These would be the suits worn from then on forward, representing a switch from being Xavier’s X-men to the X-men that fight for mutant kind.

Additionally we would have lots of very weird love triangles!! Hank is not apart of it, because he very easily finds Vera who becomes his girlfriend. Bobby has a crush on Scott however. He plans to go to the grave with this fact. Warren and Scott both like Jean. Maybe they like each other….who knows? Jean on the other hand has no care in the world for romance at the moment and misses every interaction.

Some of the prominent names that would show up in the first season is of course Magneto. Magneto would be the battle for the first episode, and then there for the reveal of mutants, and then the final battle. He is the big overarching ‘villian’. Other villains would consist of classic 60’s villains such as Vanisher and the rest of the brotherhood. However Scarlet Witch and QuickSilver would not appear till season 2.

Additionally Xavier has a divorcee(that’s not Erik shocker) that is Moria McTaggert. I love the idea of them being bitter exes that have tea with each other and talk shit. Moria is mainly a doctor in Scotland, but would make appearances when one of the kids get to injured. Additionally she has ties to the CIA and aides Charles that way.

Some Pjs and fancy references

Nonetheless, let me know if you want more. I have lots of ideas regarding this and would love to drill on and on again

[glorytoukraine2022]

I know there’s been a huge debate going on in the Frozen fandom about how Elsa sent Anna away to go to Ahtohallan in Frozen 2, so I want to voice my opinion.

I understand that Elsa pulling Anna and Olaf into a hug and sending them away in a boat seemed very harsh and sudden, but I personally think that Elsa made the right decision. There was no way that Elsa could have taken Anna and Olaf to Ahtohallan with her. Elsa couldn’t have tamed the Nokk and protected Anna and Olaf at the same time. And even if Elsa somehow managed to get herself, Anna, and Olaf to the banks of Ahtohallan safely, Anna and Olaf just would have frozen at the bottom of Ahtohallan with Elsa. There would have been nobody left to destroy the dam. No matter the outcome, Anna would have gotten herself killed and jeopardized the mission.

Throughout the entire movie, Anna was chasing after Elsa and treating her older sister as if she were a reckless toddler. I love Anna and Elsa’s bond and Anna’s unconditional, undying love for Elsa more than anything, but Elsa’s an adult. She can handle herself. Not to mention that she has magical ice powers. This means that Elsa can do things that normal humans can’t do. Like run into fire and crossing the Dark Sea to Ahtohallan.

When I read the arguments of Anna fans against Elsa’s decision, they seem to take Elsa’s decision to send Anna away as an insult to Anna’s capabilities. This simply isn’t the case. When we argue that it was right of Elsa to leave Anna behind, we aren’t trying to insult Anna. Anna is a very strong, fierce and tough individual. But not having powers means that she has limitations. Like any human would. That’s not an insult. It’s a fact.

Anna was being extremely overbearing towards Elsa and clinging to her like a lifeline. By the time Elsa felt the need to go to Ahtohallan, Anna JUST WOULDNT LET GO. By that time, it was too much for Elsa. Nothing she could say or do would get Anna to stop. As a result, Elsa had to send her away by force. Anna claimed that she didn’t want to hold Elsa back and prevent her from discovering herself, yet that was just what she was doing through her actions.

Going to Ahtohallan was something that Elsa had to do by herself. It was her journey of self discovery. Not Anna’s. Elsa was the protagonist of the story. Anna was an important character and still got development, but this story wasn’t about her. The journey across the Dark Sea and Elsa discovering herself within Ahtohallan’s walls during “Show Yourself” were moments that were very personal to Elsa and important to her story. Anna coming to Ahtohallan would have not only been a logistical issue, but it would have taken away from the story as a whole.

The frozen fandom tends to have a perception where Anna is always the voice of reason, and Elsa is always selfish and misguided. But that’s simply not true. Both sisters are equally flawed in their own ways. Both girls always have good intentions, but they are imperfect, as we all are. In Anna’s case, while she does have a big heart and is understanding of others, her extroverted personality sometimes tends to result in her overstepping other people’s boundaries, particularly those of Elsa, who is much more of a private person.

In the case of the boat scene, Anna overstepped her sister’s boundaries. She was clearly making Elsa feel uncomfortable and overwhelmed by the way she was treating her, when she should have listened and respected Elsa.

Anna’s entire arc in Frozen 2 was learning to respect Elsa’s boundaries and allowing her to become her own person. By saying that Anna was 100% in the right, you are hereby taking away from her own character development.

In conclusion, while Elsa sending Anna and Olaf away by force may have been extreme, it was in the best interest for Anna’s safety and the mission for Elsa to travel to Ahtohallan alone. It was only due to Anna’s own overbearing behavior and her inability to let her sister go that things were escalated to that point.

[therentyoupay]

TRYP thoughts on characterization

jack frost // elsa | characterization considerations

PART 4 | THEIR ICE POWERS (OR AU-EQUIVALENT) & SHARED CONNECTIONS:

ground rules + intro

overview: the tl;dr of my personality + dialogue choices

deep dive: characterization, personality, + identity

shared ice powers (or AU-equivalent) + shared connections

questions/points to consider as you write

PART 4 | THEIR ICE POWERS (OR AU-EQUIVALENT) & SHARED CONNECTIONS:

(STAY TUNED FOR AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF ❄️❄️❄️SNOWFLAKES, FROST, ICE, AND STRUCTURES❄️❄️❄️ [and more???] BY CALLI, @callimara, FORTHCOMING, but also initially explored in mtyk.)

you didn’t think i was going to not mention it, right?? but super honestly i almost forgot to write this section. 😂 i’ve written so many AUs, this point is not even always at the front of my mind anymore, but let’s dig in. ❄️❄️❄️

❄️❄️❄️❄️ this is usually how it goes, i feel, more or less:

a double-edged sword: 

elsa’s ice powers are an integral part of her identity, initially a source of both immense strength and bone-deep, soul-wrenching fear. throughout much of her life, she has been taught to suppress her abilities (her emotions), leading her to associate her powers with danger and potential harm, especially to those she cares about. this repression has caused her to view her powers as something to be controlled, rather than fully embraced, leaving her constantly on guard, always fearing that she might lose control and hurt someone.

jack’s unique perspective and transformative influence:

however, as elsa’s relationship with jack develops (in whatever universe), she begins to see her powers in a new light. jack, who also wields ice magic—and is OFTEN the FIRST and ONLY other ice-wielder that she knows of—understands the intricacies and challenges that come with such abilities. unlike others who have only seen elsa’s powers as something to fear or control, jack sees them as a natural extension of who she is—a gift, rather than a curse. 

this perspective is transformative for elsa. it allows her to slowly let go (👀) of the fear that has always accompanied her powers and begin to explore their full potential without the constant need to hold back.

liberation, trust, journey toward embracing her powers:

with jack by her side, elsa experiences—depending on the story—a newfound sense of security in using her powers. she no longer feels the need to restrain herself out of fear of causing harm (unless…….. it is angst. 👀). jack’s presence and his own mastery of ice magic provide her with a sense of understanding and acceptance that she has rarely experienced. 

unique bond and understanding:

this shared connection through their powers creates a bond between them that goes beyond the physical—it’s in some ways a sort of spiritual trust that they are safe with each other (unless it’s angst, at the center readers, you remember the scene 👀), that they can fully be themselves without judgment or fear. (unless, of course: ANGST.)

eventually, gradually: empowerment and healing:

if/when this freedom does occur, for elsa, this new sense of safety and security in using her powers is a liberating experience. she begins to experiment with her powers in ways she never dared before, discovering new facets of her abilities and pushing the boundaries of what she thought was possible. the trust she feels in jack’s presence allows her to let go of her inhibitions and truly explore the extent of her magic. 

it’s a process of self-discovery that is both empowering and healing, as she starts to view her powers not as something to be feared, but as an essential part of who she is.

cycle of growth and healing, strengthening their connection:

this newfound freedom also deepens her connection with jack, thereby pushing them into a cycle of growing and healing (unless: angst 😂, in which case, this cycle may still happen but SLOWLY and PAINFULLY, in stops and starts, in nonlinear patterns).

mutual understanding, support, and solidarity:

as they face challenges together, elsa finds that she can rely on jack not just as a partner in battle (or daily life, depending on the story, which could also be a “battle” 😂), but as someone who understands the unique burden of their shared powers (and, in the cases where they don’t share powers… their shared sense of Sacrifice 🥹 and their love for their younger sisters). this mutual understanding creates a sense of solidarity and, occasionally, camaraderie between them, making both of them feel less alone in their struggles.

growing confidence, deeper connection, shared purposes:

ultimately, elsa’s ice powers, once a source of fear and repression, become a symbol of her growing confidence and self-acceptance. through her relationship with jack, she learns to embrace her abilities without fear, finding strength in the trust and security they share. this transformation allows elsa to not only harness her powers more fully but also to connect with jack on a deeper level, creating a bond that is rooted in mutual understanding, trust, and a shared sense of purpose.

but what about the specific differences in features of their ice/snow/frost/powers?

for specific ice MAGIC features, patterns, habits, and geometrical dendrites (🤣 thanks calli), please note that @callimara will be dropping a DETAILED comparison analysis one day, so stay tuned!

in the meantime, you can see my quick takes in the woman in white, or in ch. 4 of more than you know. 

[aquaburst3]

I'm bored and I saw a TikTok about this same idea, so here are who I suspect the dorm leaders plus Jamil's favourite Disney Heroines would be.

Riddle: Belle. Both value intelligence and have a strong sense of justice. Riddle’s strict adherence to rules mirrors the way Belle stands up for her values, especially when it comes to understanding and compassion.

Leona: I can see him saying Snow White to tease VIl. But if he were to give a serious answer, he'd say Merida, Esmeralda or Eilonwy. He would admire their fiery spirits and determination, despite being outcasts in their societies.

Azul: Tiana, because he relates to her story and admires her work ethic. Still thinks she should've picked another partner who's lifestyle aligns with hers more at the end of her movie, though. (Totally not because he wants to have a partner with a similar personality as her.)

Jamil: Jasmine. Both are clever, cunning and resourceful. Jasmine's ability to navigate challenging situations and desire for freedom would resonate with Jamil's own issues.

Kalim: Tiana, because she reminds him of Jamil.

Vil: Belle. He admires her intelligence, bravery and grace.

Idia: Rapunzel. Both are a bit socially awkward and are passionate about their interests. Rapunzel’s journey of self-discovery and breaking free from isolation resonates with Idia’s own struggles with social interaction and his desire to connect with others.

Malleus: Elsa. Both share a strong connection to magic and have a deep sense of duty toward their respective worlds. Elsa’s journey of self-acceptance and embracing her powers resonates with Malleus, who grapples with his identity as a fae and the expectations placed upon him. Additionally, both exhibit a protective nature toward their loved ones, showcasing their loyalty and strength.

[sboochi]

What do you hope to get in Frozen 3?

It's probably not surprising at all, but I'm a big fan of Frozen :D the first movie holds a special place in my heart (the opening actually makes me emotional) and while I have a few issues with the second, I'm weak for the Frozen Aesthetic™, the characters and vibe.

I have no idea what the story for the threequel is gonna be, but I do have a wishlist!

A proper character arc for Anna. Elsa went through a great journey of self discovery+acceptance, but Anna's arc never felt... concrete?

Same for Kristoff!!!! Please please please gove him SOMETHING that doesn't revolve around Anna

And a solo song!! That isn't silly!!! (Lost in the Woods I love you but I want more)

Speaking of songs, besides Into the Unknown (my fave), Show Yourself and Lost in the Woods, the others felt a bit of a letdown. Idk maybe it's just personal taste

More outfits!!! One of my favorite parts of the movies are the pretty clothes

I know the lesbian headcanon for Elsa is popular but in my heart she's aro, so yeah. Hashtag don't give Elsa a partner at all (again, you can ship her with whoever you like obv. This is just my opinion™)

New secondary characters that don't get thrown away after their introduction. Basically what happened with everyone from Frozen 2

Let Anna use a real sword (optimistic. I believe disney has a rule for not letting their heroes use weapons against people)

[synergysilhouette]

I know a lot of people are fixated on Elsa's sexuality, but I' have a concerned more concerned that we don't know Elsa much as a character independent of her powers

Something I really hope "Frozen 3" and "Frozen 4" do is fleshing out Elsa beyond her powers; what does she like to do? How does she handle situations that aren't life and death and relating to her magic? The first two films are journeys of self-discovery, but many people find her boring because she isn't portrayed as anyone besides the snow queen. Given that she's achieved peace with her powers, I hope that future installments let us explore her beyond the scope of her abilities.

[frozen-snowflakesandsunflowers]

The Nøkk's real purpose | Theory | Analysis

So I was just scrolling along YouTube until I came across some deleted scenes for Frozen 2 (and I have to say they're really good scenes - bummer they got cut) - and when I watched 'Kristoff's Lie' and I saw a comment saying “I thought the Nook was just some murderous horse... But he's not... He seeks the truth in your heart. If you're not true to yourself or others, then it kills you”. That's how my first impressions of the Nøkk were. And being honest until I saw this deleted scene again I realised that that's what the Nokk really does. That scene really tells us clearly what the Nøkk's purpose is and why it's so rageful in the dark sea. It seeks the truth in your heart. It wants you to be open and honest to yourself and others otherwise what's the purpose of living a lie without achieving anything and living happily?

Frozen 2 cropped IMAX poster

Kristoff's lie in the scene was living the princely life with Anna. He admits how he doesn't like being polite, and greetings lots of people, wearing fancy clothes etc all to which Anna ends up saying “I don't think we should get married”. I personally am glad this was cut because I wouldn't want Anna to feel that no one wants to marry her for her or their relationship to have such a sudden turn. But we did get a scene that shows Kristoff's discomfort with royal stuff. When Anna sees the boys all dressed up for coronation (unconfirmed if that was her coronation or after), Kristoff tells Anna she gets this for one hour. Anna tells him that's ok as she prefers him in leather anyways. So Anna is aware that Kristoff would find formality a little difficult but accepts him and lets him be himself. It's a much better take on what the deleted scene showed I believe. I hope nothing breaks them up in the upcoming movies. Both Kristoff and Anna prove to each other that they love each other for who they are and what they would do for love.

Deleted scene: Kristoff's lie | Frozen 2 epilogue

But back to the Nøkk, that's an example of what the water horse helps you to achieve. That's why it's so full of rage to strangers or those who wish to ride it. But when Elsa meets Nøkk at first, he's like that because like the other spirits they were awoken and angry from the events of the past. Though Elsa didn't speak her heart out she was putting her heart out. She wanted to find answers about the past, about herself so she could free the forest and give Arendelle a future. Elsa's motives were clear. She was true to herself and that became determination and courage when she tried to fight/ tame the Nøkk. But finding her true self was yet to be discovered and that's where he led her too; the place of discoveries, Ahotohallan.

Frozen 2 - Elsa meets the Nøkk

“What about their parents? He killed them. He didn't save them”

Well let me address that here too. No the Nøkk didn't kill them. It was the dark sea that killed them. The Nøkk lived in the dark sea, the same way the earth giants live beside the river, but let's not forget that between the very moment the mist forged in the forest and when Elsa woke up, him alone with the other 3 spirits were asleep. But even if he was awake, calm or in rage I don't think he could affect the waves of the dark sea.. It was with Elsa's help that he was able to push back the water when it almost hit Arendelle.

Speaking of the dark sea...

Ever wondered why the dark sea was so rageful?

I think I figured it out. Crossing the dark sea by any kind of mobility, would get that person to discover Atohollan, the frozen river of memories. It's not because Ahotohallan fears power being taken or anything of a sort as I don't think its power can be taken. But rather that whoever enters Ahotohallan would not only not be able to stand the cold but if they did, they would do too far in and freeze like Elsa with no way of being saved. We all can walk on them but not go inside as it's much colder than the outside. No other spirit can enter Ahotohallan for that reason. Not the Nøkk, Bruni or the earth giants. Elsa being the only one who has the power of ice and snow can enter the glacier.

Why Elsa didn't let Anna and Olaf rage along with her to Ahotohallan

The temperature of Ahotohallan and the rageful waves of the dark sea are the reasons why Elsa didn't want Anna, Olaf or anyone if it were, to come along to work her to the dark sea. It could have killed Anna. Maybe it wouldn't exactly kill Olaf but Elsa knew something would be there to harm Olaf and that was his own death prior to her frozen one, and so she let Olaf, the same fuzzy silly happy snowman be with Anna who needs him the most. That's why she tells Anna “And I can't lose you too”.

Back to dark sea Vs Agnarr & Iduna

And those same reasons why Anna and Olaf were pushed away were sadly the reason why Agnarr and Iduna died that night they attempted to cross the sea. The moment Elsa saw her parents death she knew that the waves would be so heavy and didn't want the same to happen to Anna. She would never forgive herself if Anna didn't make it.

Elsa was able to cross the sea because she calmed and tamed the Nøkk. The Nøkk too and the other probably sensed Elsa as the spirit or someone like them seeing her powers so they had a sense of familiarity and immediate bond with her. No one else could have calmed and tamed the Nøkk or any other of the spirits but Elsa because of her powers.

The powerful Nøkk, when calm, is actually a Nøkk that leads you to honesty even though once you're in that situation with the water horse it's a do or die situation.

Frozen 2 - Elsa saves Arendelle

[nerissalmao]

I’m back on Tumblr, so it’s time to talk about GAY FROZEN! The movie is gay. All of it.

Okay, not all of it. But a lot of it!

Daily reminder as I yeet myself back onto Tumblr that Elsa is freaking gay okay? That’s how we’re gonna start this and the main thesis of this bullcrap will be Elsa’s obvious gayness.

I’m sorry, but in this scene (only moments before Elsa is shown talking to Honeymaren while holding her hand and gazing at her face) there is clearly some gay stuff going on. Note the absolute HOPEFULNESS on Honey’s face when she looks at Elsa and says “you belong here, you know?” in an extra hopeful tone? And the way Elsa actually does stay there with her?!

And earlier in the movie when they’re talking to each other it looks just like that scene from Tangled where Rapunzel is talking to Eugene! If it was a girl or boy the calm and wholesome way they talk to each other while maintaining steady eye contact and all that wholesome stuff would be read as a romantic connection, yet here it’s just shrugged off by the people who watched it as friendship. Yes, it could be that, but it also could be more and y’all aren’t even willing to suggest that alternative simply because they’re both girls.

Let’s talk about Oaken! He’s gay and has a husband and kids, and it’s clearly seen in the first movie.

Yes, I’m aware the tall girl with brown hair could be his (snore) wife. But all the kids honestly look more like the possible mother other than the blonde hunk, so it doesn’t make too much sense. If that woman was the wife and mother, why does she look just like all her kids except one, and the one doesn’t even look like her or Oaken? It would make much more sense if the blonde guy, who looks older anyway, was his husband and the kids were adopted. Yes, realistic genes usually don’t mean much in animated films, but then why are Elsa and Anna and their family designed to look related? And Honeymaren and Ryder from Frozen 2 look related as well. So yeah.

BACK TO ELSA! So, you see, if Oaken is gay, it would be perfectly reasonable for her to be given if this is true the franchise has tackled gay characters before. A gay Disney Princess would be awesome and given the first two movies showcased Elsa’s own personal journey and journey to mend her relationship with her sisters, a third movie could in turn have her beginning a romantic relationship with someone who very well may be a woman, and very may well be Honeymaren given the way they behave in the second movie. It seems to me like the Frozen 2 interactions are like Raya and Namaari from Raya and the Last Dragon— homoerotically toned friendships that seem to all but outright say that the two characters are gay. Except with Honeymaren and Elsa their friendship is shown a lot less given the movie is about Elsa’s self discovery. Unless, you know, Frozen 2 is merely setting up the building blocks for them to get in a relationship later. A girl can dream.

Did any of that make sense? I hope so. Because come on, Disney. A lot of people don’t like you know and some of your actions have gone to crap, but you can at least try to fix things by ceasing to support genocide and just maybe hearing us out and giving us a gay Disney Princess— hopefully Elsa, because that girl is gay-coded as all hell.

[salsalatte]

do you have any favorite ElsAnna stories or some you can recommend?

hell yeah

• Struggling in Arendelle City:

Elsa has always lived in fear of her powers. But through a series of events, she ends up becoming a vigilante in Arendelle City, fighting against crime and corruption. Meanwhile, Anna is crushing hard for the beautiful Ice Queen, without knowing her real identity. (Superhero AU, Elsanna incest).

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own

• Shall We Dance?:

Elsa wants to be more involved in the upcoming ball, but is anxious about dancing with strangers. Anna takes it upon herself to help her sister by introducing her to a dashing prince to practice with, but "he" isn't quite who Elsa expects. (Based on a drawing, with additional illustrations.)

Shall We Dance? - Chapter 1 - Yamino - Frozen (2013) [Archive of Our Own]

• Love Sick Idiot:

A wicked random illness takes over the world and newly crowned Queen Anna has to fight an enemy she can’t see. With her and Kristoff canceling their wedding last minute Anna realizes her heart lies somewhere else. Should she fight it or give into this journey of self discovery and go after the woman she loves? And does Elsa feel the same? It’s true love right? Unable to fight their feelings the girls can only deny each other for so long. This slow burn romance will make your heart race and possibly explode but in the best way! (Repost from Wattpad. This story was deleted at 20 chapters so it’s being moved here!)

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own

• Unspoken:

Anna is a good Christian. She was baptized willingly, reads her Bible every day, honors her father and mother, and is on track to go to the same private Christian university her entire family has gone to. But when her heart starts wanting someone she can't have, it threatens to ruin all of this. Will she follow her desires? or will she keep the peace and leave them unspoken?

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own

• It's Always Been You:

After their adventure in the Enchanted Forest, Elsa and Anna were ready to go back home and finally get some rest, far from troubles.

Although it seemed Anna and Kristoff's relationship was going well, that was not the truth.

As the days went by, the sisters spent as much time together as they could and even though that was not something new to them, new feelings started to surface.

Will they face them or perhaps let them be?

It's Always Been You - Chapter 1 - StrikingChoice4731 - Frozen (Disney Movies) [Archive of Our Own]

• The Joys of The Universe:

Anna and Elsa's paths cross one wondrous summer night in New York City. Playing with the cards of fate and circumstance, the universe delights in bringing two soul mates together. It reunites them, however, never with the guarantee that it should stay easy. A story about life and death, and everything in between.

Or, a packet of Skittles, a couple of beers, one rooftop party, and the rest is history.

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own

• Drage Hjerte:

After climbing the North Mountain, Princess Anna of Arendelle stumbles upon a discovery she never imagined would change her life forever, and neither did the beast that resided within.

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own

• The Legend of Elsa:

Medieval AU where Anna is raised by trolls, completely ignorant of the human world. By chance, she meets a young icer named Kristoff, and comes to learn about human society, where she develops an ambition for becoming a knight. Eventual Elsanna (extremely slow burn). Rated M for some violence and adult themes.

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own

• Locked Away:

It started with a painting and two broken hearts. It ends with a moonlit bedroom and Anna's fingers trailing over Elsa's naked back.

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own

• Frozen: Thawing Heart:

When Elsa is forced to think about the future of Arendelle and seek out a companion to help her rule, it is then that she discovers what she truly desires is not a king...but a queen. Additionally, with a creeping evil threatening to overtake the palace from the inside, Elsa has no choice but to confront her lingering demons and come to terms with her growing deviant fixation.

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own

• My Fake Girlfriend:

When Anna is unsure about her sexuality, Elsa offers to help her figure things out with a 'pretend date'. And...well, they certainly do.

Show Chapter | Archive of Our Own

• The Queen's Mercy:

Anna is an orphaned thief unable to escape the threat of starvation. Elsa is the young Queen of Arendelle and a sorceress fully in command of her abilities. Only the slimmest of chances result in the two women sharing an encounter. But after a sinister attack on the Queen, Anna finds herself standing in the way of a conspiracy that will not rest until Elsa has fallen. Elsanna.

The Queen's Mercy Chapter 1, a frozen fanfic | FanFiction

• Anna Summers, PA:

If Anna met this woman in a bar, she would have swept those pretty bangs out of her eyes, dragged her out on the dance floor and seen whether she could convince her to spend the rest of the night with those long legs wrapped around her. But this wasn't a bar. This was an office. That was her boss. Elsanna Business!AU Lots of Fluff, and Smut in later chapters.

Anna Summers, PA Chapter 1, a frozen fanfic | FanFiction

• Café Liégeois:

So a blind woman walks into a coffee shop… (Elsanna)

Café Liégeois Chapter 1: First Contact, a frozen fanfic | FanFiction

• A Crown amongst Peasants:

Elsa travels outside her Castle dressed as a commoner, seeking a chance to reconnect with the on-goings of her Kingdom. There, she uncovers a truth that will make her blood run cold. Elsanna. M for Incest, Smut, and Incestual Smut

A Crown amongst Peasants Chapter 1, a frozen fanfic | FanFiction

There's probably more, but i forgot :(

anyway, if you are looking for more elsanna content check: @elsanna-shenanigans

[king-magnifico-haven]

A great character to combat the ‘Magnifico is eviiiiil’

Is Elsa. The blog that inspired this blog already outlined the comparisons between Elsa’s and Magnifico’s trauma, perfectly highlighting how both exhibited signs of panic and were in clear need of immediate support.

The glaring difference between Elsa and Magnifico is this: Elsa got the support she needed, and more. Magnifico didn’t get any because apparently he was

The funny thing is that Elsa started off as Frozen’s villain, but everything changed to what we all know now. Frozen’s far from a perfect franchise but at least Elsa, a character originally intended to be a villain, a character that caused her kingdom to suffer, received an actual character arc. She received her redemption arc, her self-discovery arc, a somewhat fleshed-out backstory and a support network.

Let’s look at the scene in which Elsa strikes Anna with ice magic. A heartbroken Anna is forced to retreat, thinking she has to give up on Elsa because she’s too far gone.

Fast forward to the end of the movie and we get

Meanwhile Magnifico didn’t get anything other than Amaya going ‘oh well he’s evil now so I’m out LOL’

Okay so true love doesn’t conquer all?! I guess not because Magnifico was

[jasminewalkerauthor]

Deep dives into folklore: the snow queen

The archetype of the Snow Queen, a majestic and often enigmatic figure associated with winter's icy grip, has traversed the realms of mythology and literature, captivating imaginations and embodying both the beauty and danger of the frozen landscape. This deep dive essay delves into the evolution of Snow Queens, exploring how these mythical beings have evolved from ancient folklore to enduring literary masterpieces.

I. Frozen Vestiges in Mythology:

The roots of the Snow Queen archetype can be traced back to ancient mythology, where winter deities often held both benevolent and fearsome aspects. In Norse mythology, Skadi, the goddess of winter and skiing, exemplifies this duality. With her association with snow-covered mountains and her prowess in hunting, Skadi embodies the harsh beauty of winter landscapes. Similarly, the Russian folklore character of the Frost Maiden or Snegurochka, a daughter of winter, possesses a mix of innocence and peril, symbolizing the transient nature of winter's beauty.

II. Hans Christian Andersen's Frozen Muse:

The transformation of the Snow Queen archetype reached new heights with the 19th-century Danish author Hans Christian Andersen. In his iconic fairy tale "The Snow Queen," Andersen crafted a narrative that blended folklore elements with his own imaginative twists. The Snow Queen in Andersen's tale is an alluring yet distant figure, embodying the frigid isolation of winter. Andersen's Snow Queen represents both the enchanting allure of the frozen landscape and the potential for emotional coldness and distance.

III. Frozen Hearts in Literature:

The Snow Queen archetype continued to evolve in literature, where authors explored the psychological dimensions of the frozen queen. In C.S. Lewis's "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe," the character of the White Witch draws inspiration from the Snow Queen archetype, using her icy powers to create an eternal winter. Lewis imbues the White Witch with a sense of malevolence, emphasizing the corrupting influence of an unrelenting winter on the human spirit.

IV. Disney's Frosty Royalty:

The Snow Queen archetype achieved unprecedented popularity in the 21st century with Disney's animated feature "Frozen." Inspired by Hans Christian Andersen's tale, "Frozen" reimagines the Snow Queen as Elsa, a young woman with the power to control ice and snow. The film explores themes of self-acceptance, love, and the consequences of concealing one's true nature. Elsa becomes a multifaceted character, challenging traditional notions of the Snow Queen as a purely antagonistic figure.

V. Modern Retellings and Empowerment:

Contemporary literature and media have continued to reinterpret the Snow Queen archetype, often subverting traditional narratives. Authors and creators explore the empowering aspects of winter and the complexity of female characters associated with ice and snow. Works such as Sarah J. Maas's "A Court of Thorns and Roses" series and the television series "Once Upon a Time" showcase Snow Queens as resilient and multidimensional figures, breaking free from the one-dimensional portrayals of earlier folklore.

The evolution of Snow Queens in mythology and literature reflects the ever-changing cultural landscape, encompassing themes of beauty, danger, empowerment, and self-discovery. From the ancient myths of winter deities to Hans Christian Andersen's enchanting tales and modern interpretations in literature and film, the Snow Queen archetype has proven its enduring allure. As each iteration brings new dimensions to this frozen enigma, the Snow Queen continues to cast her spell, captivating audiences with the timeless fascination of winter's icy embrace.